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Another problem with the PSL is that, like many other established left organizations, it expects "discipleship" to its specific theoretical tendencies as a condition for association. For all their bluster about "working-class" organizing, they only consider such valid if the workers in question can be bullied or lectured into PSL's specific line, and subordinated to PSL's specific priorities and aims.

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PSL sucks. They're snobs. I only hope the people who get herded into there with good intentions have common sense. Their whole project requires an incredible suspension of disbelief, that a revolution of a tiny minority is possible.

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There ain't many people who get herded into there, bc it's a playground for self-appointed 'cadre'. Most working folks don't need more bosses in their lives, which is what these "organizers" always forget.

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I fully agree that PSL is a joke for working class people. Completely ridiculous, spoiled brats.

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Well, I don't know the numbers herded into PSL, I just know that if a liberal questions the Democratic party and starts looking into socialism, the internet guides them to these dead-end places like PSL. If the person has the wherewithal to think, "Hmm, wait, don't we need *all* of the masses to win?", they will be confused for a long time, because the actual revolutionaries are hidden from view. If they ever find out there is an alternative, it'll likely be due to coincidence or accident.

I hope this changes. I think it will. But that is how things stand right now, since they locked down the internet.

hey don't know just how much info is blocked, and how much is promoted. I do not think it is a coincidence that google search results on socialism

, just that it real revolutionary commentary will never come up on a Google search, but PSL and their Socialist Program podcast will.

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Seems to me that we of the CPI mentality need to drop leftism/progressivism entirely. We may personally agree with the old progressive values of liberalism (tolerance). But that definition has been inverted. We gotta be there for our working class neighbors, when they turn to libertarianism out of disgust for the corrupt system, and be able to educate them on how we already have a libertarian economy.

Also, the more esposés on PSL, the more hope that a non biased internet search engine, were it to ever exist, would turn up these articles. The non leftist socialist view is hidden now, but it exists and is growing stronger.

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"Mentalities" ain't real; neither are "mindsets", for that matter. There's only material conditions, and how folks react to them in order to make it through this week, this month, this year.

"Educating" people is worth less than 5% of what listening to them will do; bc people don't want to be told, they want to be heard.

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