Your argument can be made in defense of included hateful and exploitative content, which you hardly acknowledge. Why is that any different?
This isn’t merely an aesthetic disagreement. Many people like Fantano believe normalization of AI music will hurt working musicians. I see no contradiction with being an anticapitalist and advocating for the best position for working artists in the current reality.
Of course it can be made in defense of hateful and exploitative content, but people can tell the difference between "slop" and that. Do you just think people are naturally stupid and must be babysat by the capitalist state?
You're hanging on to bourgeois ideology really hard here. Try to think about it.
What bothers me is Facebook calling its rules “Community Standards” as if ordinary users have any say whatsoever in what they arbitrarily determine is acceptable. I find Facebook’s Gymnophobia to be particularly problematic. I’ve given up working to normalise nudity on the platform.
Nudity is complex; there are places where it's fine, and there are places where it doesn't belong. What is clear is that an entity like Meta is totally uninterested in nuance and is more interested in just washing their hands of anything that could be difficult or controversial. They're also particularly uninterested in allowing communities naturally work anything out.
I don't want art that is created entirely by a corporation by stealing the work of all existing artists. I can see something of your point, but I think you miss the leviathan that is corporate control of culture under the model where AI produces it all.
I'm not saying this as a value judgement, but you're coming from a propagandized pro-IP standpoint. You're arguing about stealing, as if the problem is that people shouldn't be stealing. The problem is that stealing art shouldn't be possible; art should not be private property.
We shouldn't be arguing against a technology, but against capital owning it.
Is art valuable? Obviously yes, entertainment is huge business and art as an asset category has existed forever. So your argument needs to go a bit further than 'all art should be free' because it isn't and hasn't been, so whether artists continue to be able to eat matters quite a bit in terms of whether we get anything besides AI art ever again.
Yeah sorry fuck AI, if you’re going to critique stuff from a “leftist perspective” you should be giving no grace to AI, it is literally a propaganda tool for the capitalist class.
I’m assuming this is was written with ChatGPT and you are a bot?
I’m assuming the reason you’re pro AI music is that even the most banal human made garbage is too complex for the three brain cells you’ve got to comprehend.
I’m not a leftist, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but isn’t any proliferation of your ideals still a tacit victory? Even if you think that institutions are endorsing your position for cynical reasons, it still represents a normalization of your cultural standards.
Essentially, what I mean to say is that it’s an incremental victory, at least on some level, right? You may frame these decisions as top down impositions by “capital,” but they almost certainly represent some internal levers within the organization aligned with your worldview and a willingness to accept input from the unwashed masses.
I personally think leftism is terrible, but I can respect a different opinion. I provide these critiques not against your worldview, but against the hardline stance. I could be misunderstanding something, but your stance seems counterproductive to your own cause.
You're arguing for setting a precedent that their choice trumps ours. Think less about the specific decision and more about the authority it establishes!
Your argument can be made in defense of included hateful and exploitative content, which you hardly acknowledge. Why is that any different?
This isn’t merely an aesthetic disagreement. Many people like Fantano believe normalization of AI music will hurt working musicians. I see no contradiction with being an anticapitalist and advocating for the best position for working artists in the current reality.
Of course it can be made in defense of hateful and exploitative content, but people can tell the difference between "slop" and that. Do you just think people are naturally stupid and must be babysat by the capitalist state?
You're hanging on to bourgeois ideology really hard here. Try to think about it.
What bothers me is Facebook calling its rules “Community Standards” as if ordinary users have any say whatsoever in what they arbitrarily determine is acceptable. I find Facebook’s Gymnophobia to be particularly problematic. I’ve given up working to normalise nudity on the platform.
Nudity is complex; there are places where it's fine, and there are places where it doesn't belong. What is clear is that an entity like Meta is totally uninterested in nuance and is more interested in just washing their hands of anything that could be difficult or controversial. They're also particularly uninterested in allowing communities naturally work anything out.
I don't want art that is created entirely by a corporation by stealing the work of all existing artists. I can see something of your point, but I think you miss the leviathan that is corporate control of culture under the model where AI produces it all.
I'm not saying this as a value judgement, but you're coming from a propagandized pro-IP standpoint. You're arguing about stealing, as if the problem is that people shouldn't be stealing. The problem is that stealing art shouldn't be possible; art should not be private property.
We shouldn't be arguing against a technology, but against capital owning it.
Is art valuable? Obviously yes, entertainment is huge business and art as an asset category has existed forever. So your argument needs to go a bit further than 'all art should be free' because it isn't and hasn't been, so whether artists continue to be able to eat matters quite a bit in terms of whether we get anything besides AI art ever again.
Yeah sorry fuck AI, if you’re going to critique stuff from a “leftist perspective” you should be giving no grace to AI, it is literally a propaganda tool for the capitalist class.
I’m assuming this is was written with ChatGPT and you are a bot?
Run it through a chatgpt detector, Matt Moleman
At least I’m not a Muskrat bootlicker.
I’m assuming the reason you’re pro AI music is that even the most banal human made garbage is too complex for the three brain cells you’ve got to comprehend.
Elon Musk is a piece of shit and you're doing the work of ensuring people like him run things. Think more, Moleman. You got it in you!
I’m not a leftist, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but isn’t any proliferation of your ideals still a tacit victory? Even if you think that institutions are endorsing your position for cynical reasons, it still represents a normalization of your cultural standards.
Essentially, what I mean to say is that it’s an incremental victory, at least on some level, right? You may frame these decisions as top down impositions by “capital,” but they almost certainly represent some internal levers within the organization aligned with your worldview and a willingness to accept input from the unwashed masses.
I personally think leftism is terrible, but I can respect a different opinion. I provide these critiques not against your worldview, but against the hardline stance. I could be misunderstanding something, but your stance seems counterproductive to your own cause.
You're arguing for setting a precedent that their choice trumps ours. Think less about the specific decision and more about the authority it establishes!
Why shouldn't you have options?
Are you like some pro-aristocracy weirdo or something?